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Old 08-06-2006, 08:21 PM
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well i m agree with u skmodem. but how we can block?????????? well if we dont go far away we can see frm our brother i mean pakistan..people give millions of rs...to mosque..and mosque give to terrorist organisations..and after that they buy weapon or they trained them for sucide..but we cant stop them to give fund, can we? we know we all r corrupt.. money is everything in this world not everything but almost. our minor community also help them. like simi,,,,,,well i think who does not think he or she is not indian then that person leave our country immediately..we want peace not war..wht happend in past we dont want to see again..well only radical muslims r terrorist...as i mentioned above imam. we just have to stop them.we can see frm the past 7/7 attack in england. mostly was born over there but they have been to pakistan. after that brainwash..then sucide.how u can kill innocent people? they dont have any concern with govt. they live their life wht u get to hurt them nothing. to stop terorism we have to close every organisation who is teaching bad abt other religion. we have to tell everybody that everybody is human that it. nothing u gonna get bcz nobody has seen god. heaven and hell is here..
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Taking the Point regarding the U.K. and the U.S.A. The U.K. has had many problems since giving many countrys there soveignty (there is even a case that this War in Lebbanon is their Fault) Britian promised the Land to 2 seperate sectors and there has been friction ever since...

Britain Aside cause we all know that they are a little lost at the moment...
Politically a mess and certainly Follow americans stange TO DEGREE...

the U.S.A is in it for the Money... If there is Oil around then the U.S. are interested cause they are the largest Oil Consumers on the Planet...

Anyone Noticed the Petrol Prices go up lately?

People can name these wars in the name of God or Religion but really it's all about the Money or the Land...
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well i m agree with u skmodem. but how we can block?????????? well if we dont go far away we can see frm our brother i mean pakistan..people give millions of rs...to mosque..and mosque give to terrorist organisations..and after that they buy weapon or they trained them for sucide..but we cant stop them to give fund, can we? we know we all r corrupt.. money is everything in this world not everything but almost. our minor community also help them. like simi,,,,,,well i think who does not think he or she is not indian then that person leave our country immediately..we want peace not war..wht happend in past we dont want to see again..well only radical muslims r terrorist...as i mentioned above imam. we just have to stop them.we can see frm the past 7/7 attack in england. mostly was born over there but they have been to pakistan. after that brainwash..then sucide.how u can kill innocent people? they dont have any concern with govt. they live their life wht u get to hurt them nothing. to stop terorism we have to close every organisation who is teaching bad abt other religion. we have to tell everybody that everybody is human that it. nothing u gonna get bcz nobody has seen god. heaven and hell is here..
I agree with sunnysunny. it is up to you own community to stop this happening and close down these organisations who are teahcing bad ways. I beleive this is the only way to stop it. Until then it will get worse.

I also agree with Drunken Ninja that its about fuel as well. The UK and USA both are guilty for going to war and then giving a rubbish excuse. For instance Iraq, the country that produces the most crude oil. US could see their control on the fuel supplies slipping away, so invade Iraq and install a new governemt (which isnt working) so they can have better control on supllies....

I also belive that Blair should not have backed Bush and we in the UK should not have got involved, unless it came from the UN. But cos we owe SO MUCH ££££ to the USA we have to bend over and do what they say !! I also belive Bush is a bit of a Dictator and a Warmonger and Blair is scared of him !!

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This is a website that outlines the terroism and murdering done In the name of Islam

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There is a lot of stuff going on that isnt reported on TV, Newspapers. But it is reported on the internet. I was shocked to read some of the stuff that is going on. How can it be justified ? the killing of children, the raping of women ? makes my blood boil !!

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hey man i start new thread. try to give me some reply abt kashmir....
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hi all;

when it comes to talk about terrorism, some poeple directly attached Islam & muslims as the terrorists, well in some point i excuse them cuz the media verywhere is showing that muslims are terrorists and showing a lot of movies and prgramms as they are.

Many of you guys do not know what is the true ISLAM, you think, or let me say you believe that. ALQaeda is representing islam, and that is not true. all what they do & say is against islam, they interpreting islam laws and SURAS to give them the advantege to minuplate the onnicent people and get their support. which happened before in Europ if we return to history, when they were burning innocent people because they were not believing in what they wanted them to do.

about the sura that our medorator wrote, i say its 100% true and i am a muslim, but that sura giving the order to do during war, and i am wondering why no one ever wrote the sura that talking " when you go to war, do not harm children, women, old people, and do not even cut a tree" this is a sura from the holy quran.

beside the unblievers whom been mentioned in quarn are not the christian or the jwish, cause they believe in one god what ever his name is. the unblievers are thoses who say there is no GOD.

i hope i changed some ways of looking to islam, but i am sure that there is alot of people who call themselves muslims encouraging killing people IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

some of you guys said, "the war will be between muslims vs civilaization"!!!!
excuse me, but why are you calling the muslims un civilazed people? becuase of killing??
let us see the rate of crime in america & every European city.
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hi all;

when it comes to talk about terrorism, some poeple directly attached Islam & muslims as the terrorists, well in some point i excuse them cuz the media verywhere is showing that muslims are terrorists and showing a lot of movies and prgramms as they are.

Many of you guys do not know what is the true ISLAM, you think, or let me say you believe that. ALQaeda is representing islam, and that is not true. all what they do & say is against islam, they interpreting islam laws and SURAS to give them the advantege to minuplate the onnicent people and get their support. which happened before in Europ if we return to history, when they were burning innocent people because they were not believing in what they wanted them to do.

about the sura that our medorator wrote, i say its 100% true and i am a muslim, but that sura giving the order to do during war, and i am wondering why no one ever wrote the sura that talking " when you go to war, do not harm children, women, old people, and do not even cut a tree" this is a sura from the holy quran.

beside the unblievers whom been mentioned in quarn are not the christian or the jwish, cause they believe in one god what ever his name is. the unblievers are thoses who say there is no GOD.

i hope i changed some ways of looking to islam, but i am sure that there is alot of people who call themselves muslims encouraging killing people IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

some of you guys said, "the war will be between muslims vs civilaization"!!!!
excuse me, but why are you calling the muslims un civilazed people? becuase of killing??
let us see the rate of crime in america & every European city.

since this heated discussion, poeple have managed to calm down and now opinions have been re-thought !

me myself now have realised that it is wrong to stereotype all muslims just for what the bad seeds are doing ! not all of them believe in what the insurgents do. So fair play to that, and aplogies if i offended anybody ! non-intended

but i do belive thae solution lies within the Islamic world, for them to take more responisbility against the terrosists. Acutally admitting there is a problem within their circles and to publicly say to the world "these people who kill in the name of islam are not muslims" and try and help the world in tracking down and arresting these people

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since this heated discussion, poeple have managed to calm down and now opinions have been re-thought !

me myself now have realised that it is wrong to stereotype all muslims just for what the bad seeds are doing ! not all of them believe in what the insurgents do. So fair play to that, and aplogies if i offended anybody ! non-intended

but i do belive thae solution lies within the Islamic world, for them to take more responisbility against the terrosists. Acutally admitting there is a problem within their circles and to publicly say to the world "these people who kill in the name of islam are not muslims" and try and help the world in tracking down and arresting these people

PEACE

maybe then we can progress

thanks bro for your understanding, and i am sure that there a lot of people who are opened minded like you. but its always the sound of evil is louder than the voice of peace, beside the " Western world Media" and i am sorry for that, making " being a muslim" is a CHARGE, and its EMPHASIZE on the killing that some people who called them selves as muslims, and showing the world that the muslims are a great danger on the CIVILAZATION.

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Hi Everybody

We all know that terrorism is due to the american foreign policies, and thats it.
every other country are only paying for beeing allied with the USA.

The American oil policy just came to awake a slleping bomb that ways always present in the past centuries, the religious wars.

Personaly, I Think its really stupid.
In my opinion religion is like soccer, the dope of the people.
We can say terrible things about muslims, its true, everyone hates them now because of what the terrorists are doing.
But we cant forget what christians done centuries ago,even to our own people, and to them.

In the name of God, the catholic church has killed over 6 million women in Europe, in the fires of inquisition.
6 MILLION

In the Name of Islam , we just have to turn the TV on to see the atrocities that are made every day.

No, I think That the only thing in this world thats bad is the existence of the religion has we see it now.

Religions gave us the basis of civilized behavior, dont kill;dont Lie, Dont Steal, etc....
BUt What happens is that religions have the power to do wars, terrible wars, religions rule countries!!!
this is amazing, rule countries!!!!!!
How can someone live without freedom?
The freedom of choice, of speech, of thinking, the freedom of exist!

Im Happy to live in Europe, Im Happy to live In Portugal,
and , most of All, Im happy because my country and our nighbour countries could wipe out the chains that religion had upon us and evolve into a democratic continent, where we can say and think what we want,and do it without feeling guilty.

This is what misses now in the world.
Thats what misses now in Islam.

Wanna Stop Terrorism? Stop The religious control over evryones heads.

PS.: Just for the record, Im Chatolic and im not feeling guilty be writing those lines,
im quite certain that God Knows that Im Right, and Im Sure that He knows that religion should not be like this, because in this way , there will never be peace.
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STOP the OPPRESSIVE governments from forcing their rule and dictation on the people.

Stop government from invading and/or secretively overthrowing a society's government for their rule.

"Where the people fear the government... there is TYRANNY!"
"Where the government fears the people... there is LIBERTY!"

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